Legislature(2011 - 2012)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/18/2011 05:00 PM Senate FINANCE


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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 18, 2011                                                                                            
                         5:45 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:45:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 5:45 p.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lesil McGuire, Vice-Chair                                                                                               
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
Senator Dennis Egan                                                                                                             
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Tim Grussendorf, Staff, Co-Chair Hoffman; David Teal,                                                                           
Legislative Finance Division.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 76     SUPPLEMENTAL/CAPITAL/OTHER APPROPRIATIONS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          SB 76 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 76                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  making supplemental  appropriations,  capital                                                                    
     appropriations,  and   other  appropriations;  amending                                                                    
     appropriations;   repealing    appropriations;   making                                                                    
     appropriations to  capitalize funds; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:45:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman discussed the legislation before the                                                                           
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  MOVED   to   ADOPT  proposed   committee                                                                    
substitute,  work   draft  #27-GS1739\D.   Co-Chair  Hoffman                                                                    
OBJECTED for the purpose of explanation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
TIM  GRUSSENDORF,  STAFF,  CO-CHAIR HOFFMAN,  discussed  the                                                                    
spreadsheet titled  "Senate Fast Track Supplemental  (SB 76)                                                                    
March 18,  2011 (Copy  on file)."   He explained  the colors                                                                    
used  to designate  the various  items  in the  supplemental                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:47:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf discussed  changes  in the  bill. He  began                                                                    
with  Page  11  where  omitted  capital  budget  items  were                                                                    
listed. He  explained that  the supplemental  bill contained                                                                    
no  capital budget  items. The  supplemental bill  contained                                                                    
only operating budget  and savings items. He  noted that the                                                                    
largest  changes were  found  on the  last  three pages.  He                                                                    
stated that Line  117 exhibited a $1 billion  deposit in the                                                                    
Statutory  Budget  Reserve (SBR).  He  shared  that Line  16                                                                    
listed  a   $400  million  deposit   into  the   Power  Cost                                                                    
Equalization (PCE) fund.  He added that Line  119 showed $60                                                                    
million deposited in the Alaska  Marine Highway (AMH) vessel                                                                    
replacement  fund.  He  informed   the  committee  that  the                                                                    
gambling tax fund was $22.6 million.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:48:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  TEAL, LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION, explained  that                                                                    
the  gambling tax  fund was  not listed  on the  spreadsheet                                                                    
because it  was a  general fund transfer  to a  general fund                                                                    
account.  Gambling   tax  was  classified   as  unrestricted                                                                    
general  funds. In  2008,  $7 million  in  the gambling  tax                                                                    
account  was  moved  to the  Constitutional  Budget  Reserve                                                                    
(CBR) as a repayment of  the outstanding liability. He added                                                                    
that $10  million of the  gambling tax account was  taken in                                                                    
October of 2010 based  on the Department of Administration's                                                                    
(DOA)  interpretation  of  the  law.  The  mentioned  action                                                                    
resulted in an empty  gambling tax account. The supplemental                                                                    
budget's $22.6  million filled the  account in  the proposed                                                                    
legislation.  Another $3  million remained  in the  regional                                                                    
cruise  ship  portion  of the  commercial  passenger  vessel                                                                    
fund, which could only be used for emerging ports.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:51:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  about  the  savings.  He  recalled                                                                    
discussion  about   the  anticipated  spring   forecast  for                                                                    
greater than sufficient funds as  a result of the higher oil                                                                    
prices. He  recalled mention of  more than  sufficient funds                                                                    
available for saving as a result of the high oil prices.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Teal replied  that the  fiscal summary  showed an  FY11                                                                    
surplus in excess of $2 billion.  He stated that SB 76 saved                                                                    
a good portion  of the $2 billion. If  oil prices collapsed,                                                                    
the surplus would still exist.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  explained   that   the  Senate   Finance                                                                    
Committee  created an  aggressive plan  for a  strong fiscal                                                                    
position in Alaska. He commented  that the economic downturn                                                                    
existed in the past and  a robust capital budget would build                                                                    
necessary  infrastructure. He  thought it  prudent to  place                                                                    
substantial  savings  aside  for  the  state's  future.  The                                                                    
transfer of $400  million into the PCE fund  would lower the                                                                    
payout from  7 percent to  5 percent, which would  allow the                                                                    
entity to  run in perpetuity  into the future.  The transfer                                                                    
would  alleviate the  commitment  to add  an additional  $20                                                                    
million into the fund each session.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  explained that transfer with  the AMH fund                                                                    
would  ultimately be  used  to purchase  a  new vessel.  The                                                                    
intent  was to  use the  $60 million  in federal  dollars to                                                                    
Anchorage and  Matsu for road  improvements. He  stated that                                                                    
the SBR  was a primary  savings account. He stated  that the                                                                    
committee planned to add $1  billion to the SBR. He expected                                                                    
a  savings  of  approximately  $17  billion,  excluding  the                                                                    
permanent fund,  by 2012. The  structure of the  $17 billion                                                                    
would  provide  the  topic for  committee  conversation.  He                                                                    
mentioned  pressing energy  needs in  Fairbanks and  Western                                                                    
Alaska and natural gas concerns in Anchorage.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  complemented Senator McGuire for  her work                                                                    
on  a  holistic  energy   solution.  Alaska's  good  fortune                                                                    
allowed  for contribution  to savings  accounts while  other                                                                    
states  were struggling  with  solvency  issues. He  foresaw                                                                    
future  policy enforcing  spending  limits  for the  savings                                                                    
accounts. He  declared that the  Senate and the  House would                                                                    
continue their  collective course of creating  a substantial                                                                    
savings for the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman stated that additional dialog regarding SB
76 would occur in both the House and the Senate caucuses.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                         
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.  CSSB 76 (FIN) was adopted.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 76 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:58:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 5:59 PM.                                                                                           

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